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R. A. Salvatore on Using First and Third Person in the Same Book

Do you have a question about your fantasy novel, short story, or spot of flash fiction that’s burning for an answer (or even just a question about writing or the column in general)? If so, please email your question in to: me "at" susanjmorris "dot" com.

 

Hi Susan,

Thanks so much for the blog, it helped during NaNoWriMo! I have a question with first person and third person point of view being in one novel and was wondering if you can give any insight on the technique?   

Thanks, Desiree

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Hi Desiree, 

Thank you for the question! And I’m glad you found Writers Don’t Cry useful, especially during that trial tribulation terrific thing called NaNoWriMo (seriously, NaNoWriMo is really awesome—if also really hard!).

For as often as first person and third person are used together in the same novel, your question is actually kind of a tricky one! First person, while seductive in its seeming simplicity, is actually an incredibly difficult technique to master. Similarly, third person, while omnipresent, is far from easy—requiring the mastery of various “narrative distances” to truly work it to its best effect. And using both in the same novel? Adds a whole new level of tricky! Luckily, I did say if I couldn’t answer it, I’d find an author who could.

And who better to answer this question than the author who first sent shockwaves through the fantasy community with this very technique: R. A. Salvatore. A New York Times bestselling author, Salvatore has been using first and third person together in his novels to great acclaim for 23 years now, inspiring countless other authors to start weaving in first person with their third, and cementing it as yet another benchmark of the fantasy tradition. Fortunately for us, he was happy to answer your question. I hope you enjoy his response!

If you want to see examples of his master technique in action, check out his latest book The Last Threshold, which comes out tomorrow. I, myself, can't wait!

Best,
Susan

R. A. Salvatore on Using First and Third Person in the Same Book

When I sat down to start The Dark Elf Trilogy, I thought I'd do it in the first person point of view. One of my favorite series is Roger Zelazny's amazing Amber story--I don't know that I've ever seen first person done better, honestly--and I thought that, since this new trilogy would have a laser focus on a single character, that point of view might work well. I ran into trouble immediately. First, the book actually begins before my main character is even born, and second, first person simply doesn't work with one of my favorite interludes: the battle scene. (See also: R. A. Salvatore on How to Write a Damn Good Fight Scene.)

R.A. Salvatore Looks Back Before "The Last Threshold"

At six hundred pounds of black fur and muscle, the panther Guenhwyvar is a fearsome fighter and one of Drizzt Do'Urden's most important allies. At the end of Charon's Claw, the third book in R.A. Salvatore's Neverwinter Saga, readers were left wondering what her future may hold. As we await the final book in the Neverwinter Saga, The Last Threshold, due March 5, R.A. Salvatore muses on the identity -- and unintentional identity crisis -- of Drizzt's beloved sidekick.

 

Guenhwyvar, ah Guen...

She started out as a dog, a moorhound, actually, named Canthus. When I wrote a sample chapter to audition for the second book ever published in the Forgotten Realms setting, way back in the summer of 1987, I thought the Realms were the tiny Moonshae Isles and that TSR (the original publisher of the Forgotten Realms setting) was looking for someone to write a direct follow-up to Doug Niles's Darkwalker on Moonshae. I didn't want to use Doug's characters in any meaningful way—they're wonderful characters, but I don't like sharing protagonists! -- so I grabbed one, a sly fellow named Daryth and his moorhound named Canthus, to introduce the hero of my story, Wulfgar of Icewind Dale.

Quite a bit changed during that audition period, starting with me discovering the size of the Forgotten Realms, and learning, to my great relief, that my editor didn't want me anywhere near Doug's work, since he was writing sequels to his book. So I set my book, The Crystal Shard, far away in Icewind Dale and added a character named Drizzt Do'Urden who soon took over the book. One thing I did keep from Doug's example, however: the animal sidekick.

Why? Any pet lover already knows the answer to that question. Drizzt was created as the classic, misunderstood outcast, a bit of a loner, and often driven by circumstance to his own devices. Has anyone gone through junior high school or high school who can't relate to this?

I certainly can. And in those times when I found myself confused and feeling very alone, I had a savior, a dog named Cocoa and then a dog named Yuma. They listened, without judgment, and using them as sounding boards often got me through the tough and lonely days.

So Drizzt needed a friend like that, I figured, and Guenhwyvar was born.

Let me clear this up, once and for all: Guenhwyvar is a female panther! I know, I know, don't point out the problem with that argument, please. You see, when you're a professional writer, working on deadlines and working with a team of editors/artists/designers and the like, you come to learn certain things about the process. In the case of Guenhwyvar, for some reason I never figured out, I was told that the panther had to be gender neutral. I argued about this policy, but to no avail. Guenhwyvar was a magic item, so I was told, and so Guen was an "it," not a "she" or a "he."

The cat remained a "she" in my mind, certainly, but I painstakingly went through the manuscript of The Crystal Shard and removed all of the gender-specific pronouns. In some places, the use of "it" sounded quite awkward ; when you name a character, then use "it," well, try to do it and you'll see what I mean. Nevertheless, I had my orders.

Soon after The Crystal Shard hit the shelves, I discovered, to my chagrin, that the copyeditor had apparently spotted the awkwardness of the gender-neutral pronoun, too, and so he/she (it?) had smoothed out the prose ... by replacing "it" with "he" and "him"! But no, Guenhwyvar is a female panther!

I got the name from those magnificent Mary Stewart books about King Arthur, where "Guenhwyvar" is the spelling of Arthur's Queen, and, according to Stewart, the name meant "Shadow." Perfect for Drizzt, I figured, coming from the shadows and needing a shadow. Wherever would Drizzt have been without her? Indeed, where will he be without her going forward?

Read The Last Threshold to know more.

 

 

What’s Genre Good For, Anyway?

Do you have a question about your fantasy novel, short story, or spot of flash fiction that’s burning for an answer (or even just a question about writing or the column in general)? If so, please email in your questions to: me "at" susanjmorris "dot" com.

Dear Susan,

Here’s my question: how important is it to write in a genre?

Cheers,

Denise

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Hi Denise,

Thanks for the question! And what a simple seeming, and yet really complicated topic. You’d think genre would be one of the blander topics out there, when in reality, it’s actually quite the hotbed of animated and emotional debates. So, instead of just answering your question simply, I’m going to turn this into a bit of a broader discussion of what genre is, what it’s good for, and how I’d recommend interacting with it, when it comes to your own writing. I hope this answers your question!

What Is Genre, Exactly?

It can be tempting to think of genre writing as derivative—almost as a kind of fan fiction, all swirling around “the Greats” like Tolkien who first inspire us to turn our thoughts to elves and orcs. But at its heart, “genre” is just a fancy word for a category of fiction—and while, yes, the influence of the heavy hitters is definitely felt in genre fiction, the heavy hitters of life are felt equally strongly, well, pretty damn well everywhere. What can we say? We’re human! When we see something we just love—or even something that makes us shudder with revulsion—it affects us, in ways big and small.

What’s It Good For, Anyway?

So, what, exactly, does genre have to offer? Because, you know, this wouldn’t even be a question if it didn’t have something to offer. I think genre has a lot to offer, but one of the most obvious things is a “consistent reading experience”—in that, if you pick up a fantasy book, you can expect that it will, for the most part, have more similarities to other fantasy books than to, say, science fiction or autobiographical books. That it will have a certain feel, and satisfy certain needs (not so much that it will have magic wands instead of laser guns—the trappings mean far less than the filling).

Graphic Novel Friday: Gray Morrow's Orion

Go ahead and judge this book by its cover: Gray Morrow’s Orion is exactly as enchanting as the image to the right suggests. Originally serialized (in color, at least) in Heavy Metal magazine in the late 1970s, Orion follows the swashbuckling titular hero through a fantasy land filled with high adventure. Published late last year, the oversized Orion is a book to behold—with forgiveness for its pulpy prose. For example, the opening narrative box announces:

Orion’s world is not our world but one of which the stuff of fantasies and legends are made. His enemies and conflicts are wrought of demons and sorceries, more palpable here than competitors or tension and frustration. Here powerful dark gods command men’s obeisance and magic their beliefs. The secrets of science are privy to but a few…and everyone knows they are quite mad.

The text could only be more purple if it were colored as such, and the fun part of it all is that it works when coupled with Morrow’s attention to, well, everything. Outfits vary by character—Orion is clad in bandanas, buckles, tassels, and cummerbunds; he is a pirate, after all—and the men sport impeccable facial hair, while the women are shapely and usually topless (in tune with Heavy Metal’s sensibilities). Plus, the hair! Morrow excels at flowing locks, gently tousled by an ever-present wind. The male characters are men’s men—hairy chests and bulk without any sculpted preening. Orion is the antithesis to contemporary superhero comics, and I loved the outlandish settings and ships, including an airborne armada resembling a school of giant minnows.

As for the plot, the eight chapters revolve around Orion’s magical and “terrible” sword, Thorbolt, which is the envy of just about everyone. Orion alternates between keeping it and various women safe from the clutches of arch-nemesis Lamonthos. But again, stay for the visuals and enjoy the compressed narrative for its exclamation points and unabashed chest-beating.

In the bibliographic page, publisher Hermes Press notes that the initial four chapters were scanned from comics, while the last four were sourced from the late Morrow’s original artwork. Sure, there is a noticeable shift in quality between the two, but that’s part of the charm. Orion is an anachronistic artifact, a story out of time that exists thanks to the genuine love of its curators. Plus, there is a bonus story from Gray Morrow, "Edge of Chaos," that features a similarly bearded protagonist in a more science fiction setting. The overall package is a commemorative unsheathing of a lost narrative, where imagination and skill run rampant (that purple prose is infectious), and where a cover is a sure sign of the contents within.

--Alex

2013 Nebula Awards Announced

The 2013 Nebula Award finalists have been announced by the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America. The nominees in the novel category are:

Throne of the Crescent Moon, Saladin Ahmed (DAW; Gollancz '13)
Ironskin, Tina Connolly (Tor)
The Killing Moon, N.K. Jemisin (Orbit US; Orbit UK)
The Drowning Girl, Caitlín R. Kiernan (Roc)
Glamour in Glass, Mary Robinette Kowal (Tor)
2312, Kim Stanley Robinson (Orbit US; Orbit UK)

All of the novel nominees are by U.S. authors. N.K. Jemisin returns to the Nebula list with a strong novel in The Killing Moon, while Mary Robinette Kowal's Austen-ish Glamour in Glass built on the entertainments of its predecessor, Shades of Milk and Honey. Ironskin by Tina Connolly, which alas I haven't yet had a chance to read, is about an alternate-history, magical England.

First-time novelist Saladin Ahmed was profiled here on Omnivoracious last year. In that interview, he said Throne of the Crescent Moon "took about three and a half years to write, mostly part-time, with some entire months off at a couple of points. The world, characters, etc., stayed pretty consistent, but the shape of the thing changed greatly" during the drafting process. He has been a Nebula nominee before, for his short fiction.

We also featured Caitlin R. Kiernan's The Drowning Girl last year, about which she told us, "In this novel I knew that I wanted to examine the nature of hauntings. Not ghosts rattling chains in an attic. Not what most readers expect when they hear a novel involves the paranormal. But what it actually means to be haunted ... As Imp says in the novel, how hauntings are memes, pernicious thought contagions. And, as has often been the case in my work, I wanted to offer up a narrator who's honest about being unreliable."

Followed closely by The Drowning Girl, Kim Stanley Robinson's 2312 was my favorite novel from last year. When I reviewed it for the LA Times, I wrote, "2312 is a treasured gift to fans of passionate storytelling" that contains several jaw-dropping moments and one of the greatest central relationships in science fiction's history. My opinion hasn't changed with a re-read. The novel is remarkable in many ways."

The winners will be announced at the Forty-Eighth Nebula Awards Weekend, May 16-19, 2013, in San Jose, California, at the San Jose Hilton. Visit the SFWA site for more about the awards, including past winners.

How Writing a Short Story Differs From Writing a Novel

Do you have a question about your fantasy novel, short story, or spot of flash fiction that’s burning for an answer (or even just a question about writing or the column in general)? If so, please email in your questions to: me "at" susanjmorris "dot" com. 

 

Dear Susan,   

Thanks for the great blog! My question is how to write a short story and how it differs (if it does) from writing a novel.

Thanks!   

Sarah, Derby

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Hi Sarah,

Thanks for the question and the compliment!

Short stories and novels—what a good subject. As you likely know, most authors have opinions on these things. Writers tend to have a general word count with which they are comfortable—with some tending toward the legendarily long and others toward the shortest of short. And, given their druthers, this is often the length all their stories would be, as it can be unbelievably difficult to write to a different word count. I mean, think about it! If you’re used to developing plotlines and character arcs over some 100k words, imagine going to just 1-10% of that! For this reason, some authors go so far as to define themselves as simply short story authors or novelists, and eschew other lengths altogether.

You can likely understand why. I mean, story ideas (and character arcs) tend to come in various sizes. And (in most cases, anyway) you just can’t stuff a big story into a tiny story’s package without taking a serious hit to the quality of the fiction (or stretch a tiny story out over the length of a fantasy epic, for that matter). So, if you’re a person who tends toward big story ideas, with long, fleshier character arcs, then you might find writing a short story a fearsome process—and if you tend toward smaller story ideas, stretching out your idea over a mountain of a novel might seem likewise daunting. (So many words! Why are there so many words?)

But that being said, aside from scope, the actual process of writing a short story is fairly similar to that of a novel, and most writers, given practice, can totally swing both. Here are just a few of the ways I’ve found the writing process differs for short stories, as well as a little bit on how to go about writing one for yourself. I hope it answers your question!

Short Stories: They’re Short

Of course, far and away, the biggest difference between short stories and novels is the length. But what does this mean for our intrepid writer? Generally speaking, it means you have less space to establish your characters, setting, and plot; less space to affect some meaningful change of character and context; and less space to do just about everything.

Ask Writers Don’t Cry

Do you have a question about your fantasy novel, short story, or spot of flash fiction that’s burning for an answer? Or, have you recently read a socks-off-knocking, page-a-rocking fantasy epic, with this thing that does this other thing that’s so awesome you’d just die to be able to do it yourself? If so, or even if you just have a question about writing or the column in general, please email in your questions to: me "at" susanjmorris "dot" com. Then, if I have a good enough answer (or can get ahold of some author who does!), I’ll feature it in this column.

And if you’re looking for information on a topic in general, and you can’t find it in the archives (below), please send it in, and I’ll try to address it in a future column.

Thanks for reading & happy writing!

 

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Get to Know the Walking Dead

As folks gather around the watercooler on Monday, talk may very well turn deadly. Well, undeadly. The Walking Dead returns from its mid-season 3 hiatus tonight. 

In situations like these, maybe you're the type who'll be overheard exclaiming "Oh! I love The Walking Dead!" Maybe you're more inclined to ask "What is The Walking Dead?" Both are legitimate sentiments; but depending on when they're expressed, they can easily mean any number of things.

Here's a quick primer for newbies and fans alike to the many facets of this ever-expanding post-apocalyptic zombie-verse.

The Graphic Novels

The original format for the story is a black and white series that was introduced to comic book readers in 2003 and, as of February, numbers 107 issues. In it we follow Georgia State Trooper Rick Grimes and his family as they and those they meet try to survive a post-apocalyptic world. Unlike other mediums, they are truly no-holds-barred when it comes to (no pun intended) graphic material. They are, in a word, the purest version of all the mediums -- an unfiltered, uncensored representation of the creators' vision.

 

 

 

The Television Show

 

Nominated for a Best Television Series- Drama Emmy in its first year, the TV show doesn't always parallel its comic book roots, often deviating with its characters and plotlines. Examples for those familiar with one but not the other: Graphic Novel Dale's story arc varies significantly from his TV counterpart and takes a really interesting turn. Tyrese, a character just introduced this season on TV, has been a fan favorite of the graphic novel readers for a long time. And if you think the Governor is tough on TV... whew!

 

 

The Novels

Two of what will eventually be a trilogy that has been overseen by the series creator, Robert Kirkman but actually written by horror novelist Jay Bonansinga, are already on the shelves. In The Rise of the Governor, we meet the man behind the monster -- how he was with his family. In The Road to Woodbury, we primarily follow a young woman named Lilly Caul who eventually does appear in the graphic novels but has not (yet) appeared on the TV show. In both, the writing achieves a perfect balance between character development and driving plot, demonstrates a true talent for cringe-inducing description and sprinkles in some darkly humorous elements.Of all the mediums The Walking Dead has spread to, the novels are probably the best place for non-zombie fans to dip their toes in as these two purely prose stories stand excellently on their own. And for fans of the show and/or graphic novels, they offer some significant insight into character backgrounds.

 

The Video Game

Though the art is absolutely in keeping with the graphic novels, this five-episode series features totally different characters and no overlap of plot. The game puts the player in the role of the lead character who has to make some pretty intense decisions with some pretty intense consequences, but also offers the opportunity to play mutliple games and see what happens when a different decision is made. Debuting with its own first "season" December 2012, it earned excellent reviews from publications such as The New York Times and USA Today and such game sites as IGN and PC Gamer. It's already been greenlit for a second season and is available for multiple platforms: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Mac, PC as well as for Apple devices through the iTunes store.

Graphic Novel Friday: Reinventing the Steel

After reading Dark Horse’s latest volume in the comic book exploits of Conan, I say this as a fan of Robert E. Howard and his Cimmerian: it’s about time. Writer Brian Wood, artists Becky Cloonan and James Harren, and lauded colorist Dave Stewart take Conan in a stylistically new direction in their adaptation of Queen of the Black Coast. Before purists cry “Crom!” and have at me, let me quickly say that there are countless volumes in Dark Horse’s library where Conan is traditionally represented as a hulking warrior with an unfortunate haircut. Hey, he has far more pressing blades to worry about than those that cleave his black locks. These timeless adventures will always be there, but it’s here that Dark Horse takes a chance at establishing a fresh starting point for new fans--and it works.

Very early on, there is a double-page spread by Cloonan, where Conan escapes on horseback only to look over his shoulder to give his pursuers a sly smile--a make-it-or-break-it moment for longtime fans. It’s a knowing look, a contemporary awareness that Conan has heretofore lacked. Readers will likely cheer, however, as he leaps onto a nearby ship and immediately takes command of the vessel based not only on the edge of his blade but the sharpness of his tongue.

YA Wednesday: Best of the Month in "Scarlet"

Marissa Meyer's Lunar Chronicles are like Grimm's Fairy Tales meets Blade Runner--action-packed sci-fi/fantasy with romance and intrigue.  Meyer's writing projects the stories beautifully on the big screen in your mind and begs for an actual movie version which would be amazing--who would you pick to play the bad-ass cyborg Cinderella? 

In Scarlet, Book 2 of the Lunar Chronicles, Cinder's story intersects with that of Scarlet Benoit and a streetfighter named Wolf. Freedom is just out of reach, one mystery leads to another, and Lunar Queen Levana still has her eye on the prince...what's a girl to do? There is no second book slump here--we think Scarlet is one of the best YA books of February.

While Blade Runner has it's own soundtrack, Marissa Meyer has one of her own, followed by a little Cinder/Scarlet trivia quiz.

The Scarlet Playlist by Marissa Meyer

Although I’m not a writer who typically listens to music while writing, I’ve been making inspirational playlists for years now. I love to listen to them in between writing times, particularly if I’m stuck in promo- or travel-mode and know I won’t be getting much writing done anytime soon. Choosing the right songs can keep me in the mood of the story, and sometimes a song will attach itself to a particular scene or moment of the work-in-progress and call to mind those same emotions every time I listen to it.

Here are some of the songs from my SCARLET playlist and why, in my mind, they fit the story.

 “Li’l Red Riding Hood” by Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs

Little Red Riding Hood,

I'd like to hold you if I could,

But you might think I'm a big, bad wolf, so I won't.

Is it predictable for a Little Red retelling? Definitely. Do I still sing it at the top of my lungs every time it comes up on the iPod? Oh yes. This song is just a little bit sweet, a little bit sexy, and a little bit kooky. It also happens to be about a Big Bad Wolf trying to convince Little Red that his intentions toward her are honorable. Sound familiar?

“Werewolves of London” by Warren Zevon

I saw a werewolf drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's,

And his hair was perfect.

This song always puts me in a good mood when I hear it, which is one reason it exists on the playlist. But what I love about it for SCARLET specifically is that the song portrays these werewolves that are brutal, feral, and dangerous… and also ridiculously suave and well-dressed. Now there’s an intriguing notion…

(In my head, it’s become “Werewolves of Paris,” given that the book takes place in France.)

“Howlin’ for You” by The Black Keys

 I must admit , I can’t explain

Any of these thoughts racing through my brain.

It’s true. Baby, I’m howlin’ for you.

You might be noticing a theme with these songs. Namely, howls. Because, you know… wolves? What I love about “Howlin’ for You” is that, as opposed to the Sam the Sham song in which the Big Bad Wolf knows he’s a goner, in this song the singer seems much more surprised by it. He’s unable to account for these peculiar new feelings, but he does seem to realize this girl is driving him mad. Pretty much sounds like Wolf in a nutshell.

“Animal” by The Neon Trees

I do it every time—you’re killin’ me now.

And I won't be denied by you,

The animal inside of you.

This song is so feisty and passionate and I always think of Scarlet when I hear it. When she figures out what she wants, she has no qualms going after it… even if she has to nudge someone’s primal instincts a little bit to get it. (Rawr.)

“Feeling Good” by Muse (cover)

It's a new dawn,

It's a new day,

It's a new life for me…

And I'm feeling good.

Changing gears a little bit. Obviously, Scarlet and Wolf’s story is a huge part of this book, but Cinder has a big role in it, too. This is one of the songs that I would listen to when I was working through her plotline, because it has a lot to do with freedom, which is a big theme for Cinder. All she’s ever wanted was freedom and now she finally has it within her grasp… but it’s brought some pretty big decisions along with it.

Plus, I just really love Matt Bellamy’s voice.

“A Comet Appears” by The Shins

Still to come,

The worst part and you know it.

There is a numbness

In your heart and it’s growing. 

 I love, love, love The Shins and will listen to this entire album on repeat when I get burned out on my writing playlists. Their music has a poetic quality that turns each song into a mini-movie in my head… even if I have no idea what half of the lyrics are saying.

“A Comet Appears,” specifically, always felt like the “soundtrack” song to the very last chapter of the book, in which Cinder has to make some of those tough decisions I mentioned above. Long before I had ANY idea what was going to happen in that chapter, I knew this song captured the feel I wanted it to have. For me, it carries this idea that times are bad—and they’re probably going to get worse—but at some point you have to take responsibility for what’s gone wrong in your life and do something about it.

So there are some top choices from my SCARLET playlist. Happy listening—and reading!

And now for a little Scarlet/Cinder trivia with Marissa Meyer:

Q: Cinder and Scarlet are meeting for dinner. Where (anywhere in the world) will they go and what will they order?

Okay, okay . . . Scarlet’s a small-town girl who’s madly in love with her grandmother’s farm in southern France, where she was raised. So, I can see her inviting Cinder over to her place and whipping up something fresh from the garden, maybe a vegetable soup or some croque-monsieur sandwiches, which I’ve learned is a classic French comfort food, kind of like grilled cheese sandwiches, but with ham and fancy-schmancy cheese. Yum!

Q: You’re going to a black-tie ball and can choose your date: Wolf or Thorne?

I’m going to go with Thorne because (spoiler alert!) you’ll get to see Wolf in black-tie wear later in the series. Think on that for a moment, Wolf fans! But so far, I haven’t found an excuse to get Thorne all dressed up in the books, so this excuse will work as good as any. Also, I think he’d be a very amusing date.

Q: Cinder is a mechanic, and Scarlet is a farmer. Which do you think you’d be better at?

Farming, especially if I could hire some handy android helpers to tend to the crops, while I sat back and enjoyed the fruits of their labors.

Q: Match the character to the reality show: Cinder, Scarlet, Kai, Levana, Wolf, Thorne.

Cinder – Say Yes to the Dress. The poor girl had to suffer through that stained, damp, and wrinkled thing at the ball, so she deserves a chance to really shine.

Scarlet – Intervention. She’d be the one staging the intervention, though, for a rather hopeless family member (I won’t say who). Scarlet would love the chance to give them a piece of her mind . . . in a loving way. Sort of.

Kai – Dancing with the Stars. He’s already a good dancer (there are just some skills that come with being a prince), and he’s a star, and . . . ah! How much would you love to see him do the tango? *melts*

Levana – The Real Housewives of . . . somewhere. I’ve never actually seen any of these shows, but from the commercials, it seems that there’s not a single likeable person on them. Therefore, Levana would fit right in.

Wolf – Survivor. He’s strong, resourceful, has crazy good reflexes and keen senses, and can hunt. You’d want him on your team.

Thorne – America’s Most Wanted. Yeah, he has something of a past.